LAWMAKERS September 16, 1982 - Abortion Issue
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Program introductions - Linda Wertheimer - Congress defeats a Reagan program. Cokie Roberts -Reagan defeated on "social issues" and Reaganomics.
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Linda Wertheimer intro to report on Senate held debate on "Social Issues" after the passage of the Economic package, and conservatives were defeated on abortion issue.
Jesse Helms (R - North Carolina ) pullback shows HELMS drawing coffee from percolator into silver pot.
Bob Packwood (R - Oregon) at an outdoor podium.
Bob Packwood (R - Oregon) If we lose this one, the Federal Government takes away from women the right to decide whether or not they want an abortion. That is going to be a decade downhill for women s rights. We have fought and struggled and scrapped, and we ve made progress, even though we ve lost temporarily the ERA. We ll get it again. But if we lose on this one, we are going to be on the defensive all during the 80s. And gains we have made will go backwards.
Jesse Helms (R - North Carolina ) Look I ve had a number of friends whose daughters have gotten into trouble. I feel for them, but you get down to that final bottom line, you re talking about deliberately terminating an innocent human life. And I can t step over that line.
A print of Helms' amendment to the Debt Limit increase bill attached his anti-abortion amendment to a bill that Congress must pass to keep the Government running.
Jesse Helms (R - North Carolina ) My life would be a lot easier if I didn t participate in this issue, but I just feel strongly about it. If it beats me, if I have to go because I tried to stand up as best I could for innocent, unborn children, I ll go home with a smile on my face.
DO NOT USE Still of Pro-Choice advertisement, showing a woman and man in pajamas in bed with a suited man resembling Helms in between the two, slogan "The decision to have a baby could soon be between you, your husband and your senator.
Bob Packwood (R - Oregon) and aide walking in hallway, riding a subterranean people-mover. Packwood in his office Let s say that you ve got 45 for you and 45 against you. And it s the 10 that you re striving to get and you pretty much know who the 10 are. It s going to be a tough fight, and it s going to be close. I m going at it to win. I feel as strongly on that as any issue I ve ever felt on since I came to the Senate. I think I can win. I think I can, but it s a tight one.
Remarks at Kansas State University at the Alfred M. Landon Lecture Series on Public Issues. September 9, 1982. Ronald Reagan at podium I know now what I'm about to say will be very controversial, but I also believe that God's greatest gift is human life and that we have a sacred duty to protect the innocent human life of an unborn child.
Exterior of Capitol building with lots of cars around, grey sky.
Jesse Helms (R - North Carolina ) and two associates walking down Capitol steps.
Jesse Helms (R - North Carolina ) in office press conference says the vote was so close, the closest vote ever on abortion, he's impressed. Just look at the 47-46 vote. It s the highest vote that we ve had for the toughest piece of abortion legislation ever to come before the United States Senate. I say again, that I would have liked to win. But I didn t expect to do as well as we did.
Bob Packwood (R - Oregon) speaking to press. I think everyone wanted to be done with this. Some members want to go home and campaign. We ve been on this 3 weeks. We have to pass the debt ceiling, we ve got appropriation bills and defense bills. And we ve got a Social Security problem. And we ve got 10% unemployment. And I think most of the members said, let s see. Let s take a test vote, let s see where we are. If we haven t got the votes to pass this, let s strip all the amendments off. My hope is that s what Senator Baker will do, pass the debt ceiling and that will be the end of it.
Linda Wertheimer wraps up in studio. Leadership has promised to debate a Constitutional amendment championed by Orrin Hatch that would allow states to set their own abortion laws. Discussion with Cokie Roberts of the causes of the defeat-Declaration of the beginning of life at conception controversial, Jesse Helms also threw in a provision on school prayer too broad a bill.