Waco Hearings - DAY 6
Waco Hearings - DAY 6
WACO HEARINGS: 5:00 - 6:03PM - Master Number 10971 - INTRODUCTION: The following footage of the Waco Hearings consists of questioning of the thirteenth group of panelists, in addition to, the introduction of the fourteenth group and their opening statements. The panelists of the thirteenth panel are: Peter Smerick; former FBI Special Agent, Jim Cavanaugn; ATF Special Agent who was present at Waco on February 28th and who initially began negotiations with the Davidians, Byron Sage; Supervisor Special Resident Agent In Charge at the Austin office and lead negotiator during the 51-day standoff, Gary Nesner; Supervisor Special Agent at the FBI Academy at Quantico Army Base and Negotiations Supervisor at Waco, Jeffery Jamar; FBI Special Agent in Charge at the San Antonio office and overall FBI Commander at Waco and Mr. Ronald McCarthy; former officer with the Los Angeles Police Department. Questions, and or statements are presented to the panelists from Representatives Zeliff and McCollun. 17:00:02 Old footage from Master Number 10970 shows Agent Jamar answering a question from Congresswoman Jackson-Lee concerning the escape routes made for the Davidians. 17:01:55 Fresh footage shows Congressman Zeliff beginning his time by asking Agent Sage if there was a surrender agreement agreed to by Koresh that was facilitated by the defense lawyers, and made aware to the Texas Rangers and Agent Jamar. Agent Sage asserts that there was never an actual agreement made on April 15th. Pressing the issue, Rep. Zeliff asks if negotiators kept an open mind at the end of the siege, or was the gas plan "going to be the deal." Agent Sage states that there had been no demonstrated action on the part of Koresh to make the negotiators believe his April 14th promise of surrender. He then restates how the agreement was not the big issue that the hearings are making it out to be. Interjecting, Agent Jamar states this agreement was made immediately after Koresh mislead negotiators and Mr. Dagaret about Passover. Continuing on, Agent Jamar asserts that Mr. Dagaret was used to winning his cases, and made false reports attempting to make the agreement look more like a breakthrough than it truly was. Congressman Zeliff then asks if negotiators ever told the woman and children inside the compound that negotiations had come to an end, and that gas was going to be used. Agent Jamar states that the FBI acted on the premise that CS-Gas was not deadly. Agent Sage answers the question by stating that the Texas Rangers had agreed that Koresh and his followers were not going to come out. He then tells how Mr. Schneider threw the compound's only telephone out the window, but then asserts that negotiators remained willing to continue with the talks regardless of that development. Rep. Zeliff then restates his question to Agent Sage since he failed to answer it. He then replies that the Davidians were told over the phone, and the PA system, of the of gas. 17:27:35 Chairman McCollun excuses the thirteenth panel. 17:29:25 Chairman McCollun introduces the fourteenth group of panelists. They are: Doctor Allen Stone; Professor of Law and Psychiatry at Harvard University, Doctor William Marcus; Senior Science Advisor for the Office of Science and Technology at the Environmental Protection Agency, Doctor Paul Rice; Medical Doctor and Pathologist for the Chemical Defense Establishment in Salisbury, England, Doctor David Upshaw; Toxicologist for the Chemical Defense Establishment in Salisbury, England, Doctor George Uhlig; Professor of Chemistry and Mathematics at the College of Eastern Utah and Vice President of Research for Thurmic Laboratories in New York City and Mr. Haze Parks; Special Assistant to the Judge Advocate General of the Army and expert in International Law as it relates to the military. Congressman McCollun then swears the panelists in. 17:33:16 Doctor Uhlig begins his opening statement. He details the following aspects of CS-Gas: its' history, delivery methods and affects. He also discusses the amount of gas used at Waco. 17:44:25 Doctor Upshaw begins his and Doctor Rice's joint opening statement. He details the history and affects of CS-Gas, in addition to, discussing the concentration and dosage levels experienced at Waco. He concludes that the CS-Gas did not cause the deaths of the Davidians. 17:51:49 Doctor Marcus begins his opening statement. He details the flammability of CS-Gas, in addition to, discussing its' affects on children. His statement to cut off near its' end. 18:02:10 TIME OUT.