Lawmakers - June 24, 1982 - Budget Debate
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Intro to program topics. Cokie Roberts: Congress reacts to the John Hinckley insanity verdict. Linda Wertheimer - Report on Congressional baseball game. Paul Duke - report on victory for voting rights advocates.
Lawmakers - title sequence
Paul Duke introduces weekly stories. Comment on Congressional outrage in meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Begin over invasion of Lebanon. Major story, however, remains the budget.
Cokie Roberts report on surprising passage of a budget with tax increases, spending cuts and a 12 figure deficit.
Representative Robert Michel (R - Illinois) I guess, Mr. Speaker, we ve all grown rather weary of budget meetings and budget debates and it s time we finished them. I m I know there are a good many on this floor that don t feel particularly comfortable with this document, we have before us. I m not entirely comfortable with it either. But I feel good about it just the same.
Shots of other Congressmen in budget debate.
Representative James Jeffords (R - Vermont), speaking in favor of the budget. Speaker, I rise in support of the conference report. I voted against the House version. This one I consider somewhat bad too, but it is a move towards the middle and getting something less worse is the best you can expect under the system. And thus I support the resolution.
Representative Bill Frenzel (R - Minnesota), And even though the budget resolution is nobody s cup of tea, it s the only cup of tea we have. Not only is it our only option, but it s probably better for all of us then no budget resolution.
Graphic shows vote tally on the budget. v.o. - Tip O Neill kept the clock running late on the vote to force Republicans to cast votes for the budget, with a $104 billion deficit.
Tip O Neill (D - Massachusetts) announcing passage of the BUDGET. 408 votes in the negative, motion is agreed to
Cokie Roberts: Senate also approved the budget, but the process isn't over, now individual committees have to trim programs to fit the general guidelines, tough to do in a recession. Also, some want to go back to add money to the 1982 budget.
Representative Jim Oberstar (D - Minnesota) speaking to press, My area of the country, where 70% of the iron ore for nation s the steel industry is mined and produced - this story tell it all - The Year The Bottom Fell Out For Steel. We have 14,000 iron ore miners, 12,000 in the next 10 days will be out of work. 3,500 will have exhausted their unemployment benefits. They aren t looking for budget reductions and tax benefits for to help them out. Those programs haven t worked. Or maybe we put it the other way - the Reagan program has worked. The people aren t working. This is an opportunity to put the people back to work.
Representative Morris Udall (D - Arizona), I think if there is one thing that maybe distinguishes Democrats from Republicans any one thing I can put together quickly - it s kind on embodied in this bill - the idea that we re not going to stand here while 3 million people are unemployed, and our young people, particularly minority young, stand on the street corners out of work and out of job and out of hope and dreams shattered and nothing really in the future.
Tip O Neill (D - Massachusetts) Speaker's seat.
Representative Eugene Johnston (R - North Carolina) argues that assistance packages are bad because every industry will come begging to congress to be bailed out. There will be another industry, either the airline industry, the automobile industry or seeking bailouts next moth or next year and it will go on forever. Everyone here knows we face a serious budget crunch. And if we continue to bailout, that problem will not go away, it will get worse.
Representative Jim Wright (D - Texas) asking for construction industry assistance, If it s alright for us to continue to have 20% unemployment in the home building industry if you think it s alright for unemployment to soar as high as 70% in the lumbering trades, and for bankruptcies to continue on their spiraling course, then vote against the rule. But a vote against the rule is a vote against doing anything about this housing problem. I suggest that we vote for the rule and that we vote for the bill.
Senator Richard Lugar (R - Indiana), Many people will go out of business and that is the tragedy of the situation. We re talking about real people, real businesses, housing that is not going to happen, unemployment statics that are much higher than they needed to have been. I think everybody needs to know that. That s what the fight was all about. Cokie Roberts: Your opponents say that this is the camel s nose . After this legislation there will be something for jobs, and for thrift institutions and for farmers and for all the other hard hit groups in the economy. Is that true? Is this just the beginning? Senator Richard Lugar (R - Indiana), The jobs bill we had in the housing forum was not the first step. It was only step. It is the only possibility for anti-recession legislation in this Congress, this year. If you craft a conservative, tightly drawn piece of legislation, targeted for just this building season, and for jobs and repayment, that is not a bailout. It s not a budget buster and it s not first in line.
Cokie Roberts: Reagan disagrees with Lugar s position, opposes any kind of assistance as "bailouts", vetoed the housing bill, which pleases Democrats who can use it for ammo in the campaigns.
Representative Jim Wright (D - Texas) accusing Republicans of serving Reagan instead of the people. Tell them you don t serve those 20% in the employment and the construction trades who are out of work. Tell them you don t have any care about those young couple who can t afford to buy homes. Whom do you serve? You serve the President.
Representative Les AuCoin (D - Oregon), asks Congress to override Reagan s veto of the Housing Assistance bill. If you believe the people who are saying we are in pain because we re out of work. If you believe you want to represent people who say give us some help so that we can last until the economic recovery comes through, if you want to represent them, then vote to override this veto. It s a very important choice. Do we represent the White House, or the people who are really feeling pain at this particular time.
Representative Jerry Patterson (D - California), Maybe President Reagan thinks and maybe he can wait until 1984. Maybe he can wait until 1984 for his economic recovery program to work. And yes, that other body we ve been talking about maybe 2/3 of them who have no elections this November, maybe the other body, or 2/3 of them, can wait until 184. But ladies and gentlemen, we re up this November. The American people are on the line now.
Cokie Roberts: Democrats strategy until the elections is to propose economic assistance packages and force the Republicans to act the villain by voting against them. The path is tricky, because Republicans will counter with "big spender" charges.