Waco Hearings - Day 4 (7/24/1995) Master 12009 (Tape One) Tape begins at end of Bryant testimony. 13.03.53 Shot of Committee members, press photographers, Mr. Blute asks questions to Mr. Rodriguez. 13.16.14 Chairman Mr. McCollum says "..there are quite a substantial number of very significant specific questions that only the ATF and some of you that are here today can answer that really should be brought out, I think public needs to have us ask these questions so that you can respond to them...." Break in time code - 14.28.10 Chairman Mr. McCollum pounds gavel, various members questioned. 15.11.09 Mr. Schumer says "... I think a number of things have come out pretty clearly first is of course that (David) Koresh fired first, that's undisputed. Second, that the element of surprise was broken, that's undisputed. Third, that the decision to go ahead once the element of surprise was broken was almost certainly the wrong decision, that's the overwhelming consensus here and then we get into the debate of who made the decision to go ahead ..."